tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post411243526259620087..comments2023-11-05T04:42:17.900-07:00Comments on Nomad: Movies Are To Film As Pulp Fiction Is To LiteratureScience Teacher Mommyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16579558647324072199noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-73092024300893120812011-03-09T09:53:27.308-07:002011-03-09T09:53:27.308-07:00Thanks for such a thoughtful reply!
I feel that w...Thanks for such a thoughtful reply!<br /><br />I feel that who we are as people, as members of the church, as children of God, is shaped in so many different ways. So an understanding that we aren't all going to make the same decisions, yet have equal chances at returning to live with Heavenly Father, is very comforting to me. <br /><br />And I have to have faith that the atonement makes up for so much, otherwise the one time I managed to read my scriptures in the last 3 weeks isn't really going to make up for all of my shortcomings! ha haAmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769910337177639884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-16021200935928754562011-03-08T20:46:12.101-07:002011-03-08T20:46:12.101-07:00And your remark about "imaginary commandments...And your remark about "imaginary commandments" is well-taken. But I do think it works both ways. We also have to be careful that we aren't perpetuating as gospel what prophets and apostles have said if it wasn't given as general counsel to the Church; and we have to be careful about misquoting or using their quotes in light of our own pre-conceptions. I think this is why people outside (and, heck, even inside) the Church are sometimes not clear on our doctrine. So do Mormons drink caffeine, or what?? :)<br /><br />And while I'm vaguely on the topic . . .The other one that bothers me is the quoting scriptures that don't actually exist. My favorite, that you get about once a month in Sunday School is, "It is like when the Savior said that it wouldn't be easy, but it was worth it, you know?" GRRRR . . . .<br /><br />The new FTSOY guidelines seek to make Church members more responsible for keeping the spirit in their own lives, and to broaden the standard to a worldwide Church. This line will therefore be different for every person and family. Which is the very reason that it is so hard to create a ward book group that doesn't offend/ostracize or create cliques.Science Teacher Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16579558647324072199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-84041292845286858702011-03-08T20:37:57.502-07:002011-03-08T20:37:57.502-07:00Well said, Amy. I guess my point was more that the...Well said, Amy. I guess my point was more that there are many ways to be uplifted, and that we have to be careful about throwing out the baby with the bathwater.<br /><br />When it comes to it, "life changing" is a pretty bold statement. Perhaps the most we can really say is "perspective enhancing!" And even at that, it certainly isn't right for me (or anyone else) to imply that a certain media product is the ONLY way to produce such changes, or enhancement, if such is even necessary. <br /><br />And my remark about being conditioned was probably mostly me poking fun at my behavior regarding a decision with which I really felt okay. I think that when we think about the letter rating system, it is important to remember that the system cannot actually reflect what LDS people actually value, as the system (and most of the products it judges) is not made by anybody with prophetic insight. <br /><br />My idea here was to try to spark a letter of the law/spirit of the law discussion, though I think my post on the Sabbath Day from a few weeks back already addressed a lot of that.Science Teacher Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16579558647324072199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-35333221123604219562011-03-08T18:45:17.657-07:002011-03-08T18:45:17.657-07:00I know lots of LDS friends and family who have or ...I know lots of LDS friends and family who have or will see King's Speech. Some of them were also big proponents of other must see-can't miss-will change your life R rated movies like The Passion of the Christ, Schindler's list, etc.<br /><br />And I have no problem with that. And I honestly don't care what other people watch. It's their agency, their lives. But I did hate having my father and others tell me that I should see the above mentioned movies, that they were life changing, uplifting and testimony building even. I even had one man on an airplane tell me that I couldn't be much of a Christian if I wasn't going to see Passion of the Christ.<br /><br />I felt like they were working harder to convince me that they weren't wrong for seeing it, and that by me watching as well then they would be vindicated in that choice. Maybe not. Or maybe I come across more judgmental than I mean to. I hope not, because I have enough imperfections to work on without worrying about other people's faults.<br /><br />I guess my point is (I do have one, really:) that if people want to watch an R rated movie or every PG-13 movie under the sun, then great! But I don't understand the desire to get me to change my mind with insinuations that people who won't watch King's speech, or other movies, are conditioned, prudish, or following an imaginary commandment. I just make decisions for myself and my family based on what I feel best about, as do we all, I'm sure. <br /><br />This is all said in my nice, happy voice, by the way. You seem strong and secure enough to handle a dissenting opinion, that's why I felt safe to share my real feelings:)Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769910337177639884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-37477107375838839082011-03-05T01:01:44.122-07:002011-03-05T01:01:44.122-07:00Thank you so much for posting this! I have been dy...Thank you so much for posting this! I have been dying to go see it, and I have been trying to find the time to do so, while also battling my ingrained "fear" of the R rating. <br />Oh, and thanks for outing yourself as a democrat. I need more people to stand with!Loradonahttp://loradona.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-58881459419682259362011-03-04T15:31:37.980-07:002011-03-04T15:31:37.980-07:00I searched the topic "R-rated movies" on...I searched the topic "R-rated movies" on LDS.org through general conference and only came back with the following list:<br /><br />http://lds.org/search?lang=eng&query=r-rated+movies&collection=general-conference<br /><br />No prophet or apostle weighing in with that kind of specificity over the pulpit with at least a cursory search. Anybody have anything else to add?Science Teacher Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16579558647324072199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-58308663844713739172011-03-04T11:31:58.270-07:002011-03-04T11:31:58.270-07:00This movie has been on my to-see list so maybe wit...This movie has been on my to-see list so maybe with your added recommendation I will actually get out to see it.Courtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986527567693226393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-33436687298794937302011-03-03T21:25:24.663-07:002011-03-03T21:25:24.663-07:00I had a chat with the most movie-loving friend I h...I had a chat with the most movie-loving friend I have yesterday. He expressed his dismay that so many LDS people will not see <i>The King's Speech</i> when it is has so many themes and messages that LDS people would actually appreciate. We have a ClearPlay and a NetFlix subscription, and if it weren't for that, we'd probably see the film. But we just don't go out to see movies. Even more now that we have a baby.Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00248348740599788697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-90412842246780050932011-03-03T14:27:28.790-07:002011-03-03T14:27:28.790-07:00Interesting. I have a friend who maintains that no...Interesting. I have a friend who maintains that no prophet has ever explicitly said that we should not watch R rated movies. But I knew I'd seen it spelled out somewhere; the previous version of The Strength of the Youth was the current pamphlet when I was in YW, so that explains the mystery.<br /><br />I know why The King's Speech is rated R, and I've heard that it will be re-edited and re-released as a PG-13 movie. The article I read made it sound like they'll just cut the sound of the word, but I'm sure it will still be very clear what word is being used, so I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make. That being said, I'd really love to see this movie but I'll probably only do so as a PG-13 movie.<br /><br />I also totally agree that many PG-13 movies (and even some PG) movies are pretty inappropriate. . .which is why I prefer period romances (not that those are necessarily free of the sex scenes).Melaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03338949204492816733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32806324.post-78468442737760493792011-03-03T12:53:18.150-07:002011-03-03T12:53:18.150-07:00I absolutely loved The King's Speech. I think...I absolutely loved The King's Speech. I think it's something that everyone should see, in its entirety. But then apparently I'm also part-heathen, so there's that. ;)<br /><br />xoxheidikinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525478381785640543noreply@blogger.com